ANNOUNCEMENTS: Game Update and More


Hello everyone!

Firstly, I want to take the time to apologize for what I thought would be a quicker release of the Full Version of 0.3.4. Technically, the Renders were already done, but I wasn't too happy with how the last couple hundred looked, so I had to go back and Re-Render them...… which incidentally sprouted out double (going on triple) the amount of Renders I originally took, lol. This in turn did allow several of the characters to shine a little more in-game. Section 17, which is dubbed "Town"...… man... it exceeds the amount of Renders of Chapter II alone (1800+ Renders), coming in at almost 2500 Renders, which is insane! When it comes time for Scripting, it shouldn't take nearly as long since I need to script what all I Re-Rendered. I can't provide an exact release date, but with some estimations (and hopes)… it could be done by mid/late September.

Secondly, I know that the last couple months were very slow with game progress. I was spending a lot of my time with my kiddos, on top of work and Drill, so I wasn't able to work much or at all on the game... but I should now be able to utilize my time more now. At least that's the hope...

Thirdly, and probably most importantly... I know not many of you may feel to comfortable or agree with the idea of... a Remake... especially if there are chances of previous established story to be altered or removed completely. I will try to explain the main goal of the Remake I plan on doing...

PROJECT PHOENIX (Remake):

I received a lot of feedback: positive and even negative. But amidst all that... a few good points have been made that I want to try to fix:

  • A lot of the girls fall in love with the MC too quickly...
  • There are a lot of girls, but not enough time with them....
  • Relationships feel rushed, lewd moments too quick, forced even...
  • The man's 500 years old, but acts like an idiot...
  • The game as a whole has no idea what it wants to be...

Guys...… you're not wrong, and honestly I can't be mad about some of these points, even if it cuts deep, lol. On the contrary, sometimes you need to understand the negatives to be able to learn from those mistakes to provide a positive outcome. I don't want to keep using the "This is my first game" excuse, either... with all that said, I want to be able to create the best near-perfect visual novel for you all to enjoy, because nothing in this world is perfect. If it was, then people wouldn't continue to improve, learn, and adapt. My goal is to address as many of these points (and ones not mentioned) in the Remake as best as I can... first being a MUCH longer establishment of relationships for a more natural feel of them. I also plan on stretching out the story much more to allow those relationships to flourish. And yes... that means there will be some altered story along the way... but a lot of the established lore/story will remain, just tweaked or improved a bit.

PROJECT GALAXY (New Game):

This is something I had in mind of doing possibly in conjunction with Fall of the Angels, but worst case after that game is over. Many of you know that I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and sci-fi geek... so... why not make a visual novel of it? Not Star Wars, lol... but a space fantasy. Yes, I know it's not anything new, as there's a lot out there already...… especially in Honey Select 2, which is the engine I will be using for it. Nothing has be set in stone yet, but I feel like at least providing you all the... imagination...

Lastly, also likely important... as mentioned above, those are the two major projects I plan on doing, with Phoenix being the next immediate one after 0.3.4 is fully released (and after a little break from development). I'm gonna be honest with you all... I would love to work full-time on these visual novels, because it really is fun and I can express my imagination in writing and illustration. Unfortunately, with an actual job and doing my monthly duties to my country, time hasn't been on my side. Regardless, with the current update and near/future projects, I will work on them to the best of my ability and time. The support you guys provided me is beyond appreciated, and I can't thank you all enough for it. Maybe in time, I will feel comfortable with working full-time on these games... but I wanna earn that support from you guys, not demand it.

I hope to provide you all the best experience possible, and once again, I can't thank you all enough for the support, feedback, reviews, and more. And remember: honesty goes a long way, positive or negative.

From your always-humbled developer,

13th Sin Games

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"The guy is 500 and still an idiot."
Just sounds male to me.

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more like female

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I think I'd call it a rework rather than a remake, but it's a good idea regardless of what you call it. I like the game alot, and its very impressive for a first game, but the points raised are valid. 

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I'm happy with any changes, as long as the character's personalities don't change and their names stay the same

otherwise, I'm all good

I like the idea of a remake for Fall Of The Angels and Project Galaxy sounds interesting but unfortunately I played Project Phoenix and I really couldn't get into the story and overall the game was not my favorite however if it remade I will try it again but I have faith in your ability to improve in the areas of each game 

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Good idea about remaking, I know kinda sounds bad but the game is nearing its end I love the flow of the story but it has some holes in it that needs filling though, some scenes are kind of cringe (positive ones).

about the girls falling in love with the MC very quickly, it sits between good and bad, the good part is we get the girls no issue but the bad part is, less backstories and less screentime with the other girls.

the has its UPS and DOWNS but, GREAT game nonetheless and I'll say this, it's one of the most polished games I ever read. I approve of the game to be remaked but... this means more work for you.

P.S: I hope you have enough time to rest the remake might take months but it's ok as long as you take a break from time to time.

motto: Quality precision.

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it's good that the game got a remake and changed the gameplay, because before it was very weak and wrinkled. how the game could be better by removing what weakened the script.

That said, I agree with the points listed here, that I even skipped events that simply caused others embarrassment, and I was a fan of that in games, and to be honest I'm surprised what was listed was the issue I went through as well, and that there were people who demanded more, not that guy who settles for anything, and thank god the dev saw it and came back because there are some who don't even do that.

  • Many girls fall in love with the MC very quickly: Really, there were a lot of girls and few of them had an attention-grabbing background but they all shared the fact of falling in love at first sight, if that isn't a side effect of the mc, since their father was able to brainwash, so I don't know... another detail and that human world has no men so all the women are in the doldrums, which has led to the point where more and more are being introduced (boom, and welcome to the harem, we don't know who you are, but welcome to the group).
  • There are a lot of girls, but not enough time with them: really, there are a lot of girls, and we don't choose who and when we can enjoy the relationship.
  • Relationships feel rushed, lewd moments too quick, even forced: In fact, certain relationships were forced, as most events with this character are true "turn off!" with Ex; it would be Jade's event with MC at her book club, where she literally rapes the MC. it's pejorative to say that, but it's true, at that moment the player didn't have the option of wanting to follow his path or not. and in the end she ends up getting pregnant because she wasn't taking the bad medicine to fight the "heat!"

    the event of the race against Sora, man, how ridiculous, she just teleported throughout the race, giving the MC no chance to compete, a 500 year old angel losing in the most ridiculous and idiotic way possible! and as a punishment, you are forced to "Sleep" with Sora and Fuyumi, and once again the player has no option to refuse this event, I don't know.... this was so ridiculous that I almost dropped the game. and when the beach event on her birthday arrives, I discover that they are both pregnant.
  • The man is 500 years old, but he acts like an idiot: he should know how to say no to girls, not be a pushy boy being malleable and a toy for girls, and he should also be wiser for his age in relation to humans.
  • The game as a whole has no idea what it wants to be: the game's story, it's him rediscovering who's going to be hero or villain, although the middle ground would be interesting.

    That said, it's great that a remake is coming. As much as I'm more interested in the relationship between the MC and Zenera, and King Maverick, I would love to see more scenes and interactions with the girls of our discretion and not just anyone, anyway, looking forward to the next update! Hope things go well for you!
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I said it before and I'll say it again, it's still so crazy to me that this is your first game. Even if it's not perfect (But really, nothing ever is. Let's not kid ourselves here) it's still a title I hold in high regard and feel it's better than you let on during the intro and even in this post.

That being said though... I don't disagree with the points listed but I kind of never paid it much of any mind or thought it was that big of a deal because:

  • I was too engrossed by the story anyways
  • I had this sort of head canon that it had something to do with him being an angel, that then was reinforced by MC saying he didn't know what his 'power' was after becoming a Guardian.
  • It was mentioned a few times in-game how the male population is much smaller than the female population so I kind of figured that there's potentially a lack of people they found desirable at the time and here comes someone new and different with a breathe of fresh air in how they carried themselves in comparison to most people they've interacted with.
  • It's a harem game with plenty of characters, we often won't be able to spend time with our favorite characters as much as we'd like.


That being said, however, I'm not opposed to getting a remake. As much as I really would like to see this arc to the end, I would love to see more scenes and interactions to build things up a bit more with love interests. If the price of that is a remake and a bit of a rewrite to what we have then it is what it is.

As always, looking forward to the next update! Hope things go by smoothly for you!

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While I do think your game is great, I agree with the negative points that you listed. I do think that doing a remake is a great idea and you have my support. I always thought that there wasn't enough time spent with all the girls and that they did fall in love too fast.

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i have a feeling this game will be one of the best out there with enough time, also you are Awesome at game development btw, but the best way to learn is from former mistakes so that you can make something better or improve. i wait to see where this game will go on the future in my opinion this deserved to be front page here on itch io.

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To the points you listed:

1/3: I've always thought that the girls falling for the MC so quickly was due to his currently unknown origins. Like it's a side-effect of whatever is going on with that. The feelings aren't fake or forced, they just happen a lot quicker because of it.

2: With how many girls there are and the amount available of time each day, you can only spend so much time with each of them. All of them understand that they have to share the MC though, so it shouldn't be too big a deal to not spend time with every girl every day. Newer girls are of course going to have less time since they only recently get introduced, but they'll get more as the story moves forward.

4: With him being 500 years old doesn't matter. That's applying short-lived race logic onto a long-lived race. Aliza is the same age and in the same boat as the MC. They just work differently.

5: Everything has made sense so far and the story flows well enough.

All-in-all, no real complaints about anything thus far. Keep up the great work!
(Don't worry too much about remaking things.)